Resources section

Humma_Kavula

I think it might be helpful to have a dedicated section where members can share the resources they commonly use and/or to advice others how to debunk denier myths (ie, how to find specific research papers on the web, which sites are trustworthy and which are not, etc.).

Not only would this be beneficial to those members with limited 'debunking experience', it would also improve the skills and knowledge of more experienced members and allow them to interact on why a particular site or research method is preferable or not.

Sou

That's a good idea, HK. I was thinking of maybe adding a wiki at some stage, which could be useful for that as well. What do other people think?

FlyingDutchman

Definitely add an area for resources and outreach/guides/common techniques. I wouldn't recommend adding lists of 'untrustworthy' sites so much as providing guides on how to determine if sites are trustworthy with perhaps a few examples. Saying that WUWT is bonkers might simply scare people off while explaining why they're bonkers might work better. Plus, in many cases it's not exactly hard to show the crazy.
Wiki might be useful, Sou, but it would depend on what kind of infrastructure you want to build if you go for that. This whole place looks more of a forum than a chat, so it's already somewhat suitable for gathering information; each thread could simply be a specific topic.

dcpetterson

The problem with a wiki is that it has to be closely moderated. It is a Good Thing in that it allows many people to share their knowledge in a convenient reference format. The danger is that a dedicated person (or cabal) can hijack it, and cause no end of headaches by repeatedly (and even maliciously) altering the content. Wikis are best when the list of people who can modify them is restricted, or when proposed changes have to be approved. The latter method gives some semblance of a peer review. Any useful public wiki requires a dedicated panel of reviewers.

Note that I am not advising against a wiki.

john

While it is true giving links is a good idea I have seen this done with The Conversation.
However are those that are in a position of not open to other views going to look.
I usually just try the links from for instance.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462-climate-change-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.html#.VZyQl2cw_9I
http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/14/3/pdf/i1052-5173-14-3-4.pdf
https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-evidence-causes/
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Perhaps Roxy Rex site is used some times to reflect upon the present direction headed
http://rockyrexscience.blogspot.co.uk/

Sou

I've set up a wiki page where you can add references. You can add a heading if none exists for the reference. You'll need to give the reference a description and you can say something about it (eg why you like it, what it's good for etc). Edit: I've added a separate page for links to climate blogs - you can add to this list, too.

You'll need to create a separate account to log into the wiki, and you'll be sent a password by email.

I'm still figuring out how the wiki works. In time, there'll be more pages and a proper table of contents. For now, the only page in the Contents is the climate references page. (No longer true.)

Sou

Humma_Kavula said:

I think it might be helpful to have a dedicated section where members can share the resources they commonly use and/or to advice others how to debunk denier myths (ie, how to find specific research papers on the web, which sites are trustworthy and which are not, etc.).

The best way to get a section going is to start a discussion. Everyone can post in the same thread. If a particular discussion is popular it will rise to the top. If it's particularly useful, or by popular request, I can add it as a sticky so that it's easy to find (by always being at the top of the particular forum.

In this case the Climate and Weather forum would be the best place to start a discussion to share resources. There's also the wiki, which I've linked to in the comment above.

BTW I've moved this thread to the Climate and Weather forum because it has already got some comments with links

dcpetterson

May I post this here?

I've been working for a few days on a blog post going more deeply into the anthrax outbreak in Russia, and responding to Jim Steele's attempt on WUWT to attribute it to anything other than climate change. 

Heat on a Cold Case

Feel free to comment, there or here. And feel free to tell me I'm announcing this in the wrong thread.

Sou

john said:

...I usually just try the links from for instance.

Thanks for these, John. I've added most of them to the Wiki. I hadn't come across Rocky Rex before. What a terrific blog that is. 

I've yet to add a section for individual science papers, but plan to do that - just for ones like the Royer paper and similar.